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Re: 610 Cabs

Post by LowGroove » 10 Jan 2019, 13:16

benhill1982 wrote:
09 Jan 2019, 16:09
I've got a Bergantino NV610T, and it's built like a tank, so I'm surprised its only 45kg. Not sure if there's a notable difference in dimensions on the different options listed as well. Funnily enough, my head is only 5kg less....
Yeah I have a berg 412 built in the same physical enclosure and weighs a bit more at 49kg. Easy to roll into places and put in the back of a wagon - stairs are not it's friend though.

If I was buying new today and $ were not an issue I would go barefaced 610 - 29.5kg! Given I own a BTII I know they do it with thin walls but very clever bracing - and the sound would be very loud and quite old school. However I find the BTII gives me the volume of a 610 or 412 at just 22.5kg and a lot smaller footprint.

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Re: 610 Cabs

Post by Aussie Mark » 10 Jan 2019, 14:50


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Re: 610 Cabs

Post by Rocksolid » 10 Jan 2019, 15:34

Honestly don't think stairs are a complete deal breaker if the cab has skid rails on the back. I've laid 610s on the stairs before and pushed them up on the rails, and slid them down also.
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Re: 610 Cabs

Post by rodl2005 » 10 Jan 2019, 21:17

NV215(current), 412 AND 610 gene here... I'd rather these, (which are all the same dimensions, slightly different weight, ) than any 410. Easy to load, built in wheels etc.
I do have 2 x 115s for when there's stairs etc. But, wow, I'm 55, and really, a lean, tilt and slide with these is a piece of cake.

Still, each to their own, but I know what I'd pick given only one cab ever. A big un!
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Re: 610 Cabs

Post by Paisley » 10 Jan 2019, 23:45

Agree with others here; I find weight less of an issue with 610's because of how manageable they are. In fact, lately I find I'm missing having a 610 Cab.
Previously I've had the Ashdown & the Markbass; obviously the MB was a doddle to lug as I could literally load it with one hand (and no, that's not an exaggeration); however I can't recall any situations where the Ashdown gave me any grief with loading. It wasn't a bad sounding Cab either; TBH, if it had a tweeter I'd probably still have it.
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I beg to differ Blaine! I think we all had a listen to Doug's Epifani 610 at the first Adelaide GTG! I remember it being quite scooped in tone...I could be wrong though...
I'd be curious to know if that Epifani 610 was a UL series 1 or 2. A Epi UL-1 610 is something I'd dearly love to try; currently my favorite Cab is a UL1-410, whereas I find the UL-2 series are much more scooped with a bigger bottom end.

I think they're pretty thin on the ground though; I can only recall seeing one up for sale over the last few years.
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Re: 610 Cabs

Post by slowlearner » 11 Jan 2019, 11:10

I've come in a bit late to this discussion. I've got a SWR Goliath SNR. It's 52kg. Fits very neatly in the back of my Golf wagon... or a Mazda 3 hatch (amazingly!). I agree with comments re moving it around. The wheels on the back make it easier to move than a 1x15 or 4x10. The only drama is getting in and out of the car without scratching the bumper, but I only need one extra set of hands for it. To be honest, I only use it for outside gigs. I may even sell it this year depending on what happens. I'll be kinda sad to see it go if I do, but it only gets a gursey once or twice a year at most.
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Re: 610 Cabs

Post by rodl2005 » 11 Jan 2019, 22:30

A rubber backed mat saves yr car bumper
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Re: 610 Cabs

Post by slowlearner » 11 Jan 2019, 23:00

rodl2005 wrote:
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A rubber backed mat saves yr car bumper
Good thinking! :thumbup:
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Re: 610 Cabs

Post by bom bom » 12 Jan 2019, 11:49

610’s arent really a one man lift imo, they sorta need to come with a station wagon.
But they are so easy to move long distances coz they all have wheels and tilt/sliding in the back of a wagon is a cinch.
And occasionally they’ll require a band member to help if the stage has a few steps, but I’ll take a 610 any day over lifting a bloody awkward 410, plus the extra bonus is that you can actually hear yourself play.
But yeh, the caveat is you need a wagon I guess, well, works for me anyway.

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Re: 610 Cabs

Post by slave » 12 Jan 2019, 15:47

vin-tone wrote:
10 Jan 2019, 09:08
In many ways a 610 is easier to move than a 410. eg. A 410 you need to lift into a station wagon - a 610 you can roll it over the tail gate. The 610 will likely have wheels etc.
This. Stage space is usually the only reason I'll take 2x12, otherwise the wheels are a motivator.

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Re: 610 Cabs

Post by rodl2005 » 13 Jan 2019, 08:33

The skid rails help too. Even with high stages, I've dragged mine up by myself.

Just back it up to the stage and hoik it up sliding on the rails.

I usually do it myself, just coz I don't find it hard.

It's quite fulfilling actually. :shrug: 8/ :lol:
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Re: 610 Cabs

Post by basshack » 13 Jan 2019, 11:45

Yeah I don’t find lugging the Warwick around myself. Got a station wagon though
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Re: 610 Cabs

Post by DeadlyErnest » 13 Jan 2019, 14:09

DoctorJohn wrote:
09 Jan 2019, 13:16
It's a combination of the speaker magnets as well as construction. Each speaker might only be a few kilos lighter, but when a cab has several, it all adds up. Use of ply vs chipboard vs MDF also contributes to weight. One of my first cabs was a behringer quad box made of MDF that weighed a ton! Additionally the addition or omission of internal bracing obviously affects the cabinet weight. Less is lighter, but less rugged.

Lots of factors. Don't forget the handles or castors and that shopping trolley handle :p
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Re: 610 Cabs

Post by DoctorJohn » 13 Jan 2019, 18:16

I am and always will have an ampeg svt-810e is a daily driver. It’s heavy and clunky to transport. But it never lets me down and always sounds awesome. Relentless reliability, tone and headroom come at a price. It fits in the back of my Ford Focus hatch - so I don’t really have any reason not to load it.
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Re: 610 Cabs

Post by slowlearner » 13 Jan 2019, 21:10

^That's impressive! I wonder if Ford designed it to fit an 8x10. :D
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