Stingray 5 heavily modded by Matt at Bass People!

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Stingray 5 heavily modded by Matt at Bass People!

Post by Petebass » 11 Sep 2011, 11:48

As I've mentioned in other threads, Matt Bullus and I have been scheming to modify this bass for quite a while now, and it's now a done deal! Thanks Matt, you absolutely nailed it.

I basically had the idea to add a P-bass style pickup to a bass that already has my other favourite tone ever i.e a Stingray 5 with the 3 coil ceramic pickup. Ideally I'd just own one of each bass but my band does a lot of medleys and I simply don't have time to put one bass down and grab another one. I wanted to have these two very different sounds at my fingertips on one bass. My MTD Heir has been pretty good for this but I wanted to try for a more authentic Stingray and P-bass representation.

The plan was to start with a SR5, add a reputable P bass pickup of my preference (in my case Nordstrand). The pickups are likely to vary in level so I'm adding a Bart buffer circuit with individual level control for each pickup. My preference was obviously the authentic MM tone and if I can get the Pbass tone in the ballpark I would be happy.

I didn't want to cut into my existing SR5 bass so I first off bought a used on this forum from Crazybass a while ago. Only problem is it had the dual coil Alnico pickup. First step was to buy a genuine MM 3 coil Ceramic pickup of TB (I got lucky, they don't pop up very often and MM won't sell them to you).

Matt first had to do some routing to make the 3 coil pickup fit:-
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The electronics cavity had to be enlarged to house the Bartolini buffer circuit which will allow for fine tuning of the pickup output levels. Matt had to make up a template especially for this project. That's dedication for you!
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Next step is to rout out the timber to fit in the PBass pickups. Another custom template was required:-
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Add some black paint to all the new routing to make it look pretty:-
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Drilling a hole to connect the newly cut Pbass pickup wiring to the electronics cavity:-
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Now install everything - and there was lots to install. The two small holes just above the knobs are the two trimpots for the bartolini buffer circuit. A small flat head screwdriver allow me to adjust pickup levels with easy access.
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And here it is, the finished product:-
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What can I say, Matt's workmanship is superb! There's obviously a LOT of work done on this bass, which means lots of opportunity to make a mistake for mere mortals - But not Matt.....he is a true professional and I can't say enough about how good a job he did on this bass.

I've done 3 gigs with this bass since picking it up. The 3 coil MM pickup sounds EXACTLY like my other bass with the same pickup - as it should. The Pbass pickup sounds brighter than the typical passive Pbass sound we're all familiar with, but that's to be expected given this is an active bass. I can however get that passive Pbass growl buy using the EQ on the bass i.e winding off the treble and boosting some mids. The bottom end on the Pbass pickup is MONSTROUS. Too much in fact. I've had to adjust pickup heights to try and level them a little bit so.

I'm still tweaking but I'm already sure this bass is very much a keeper. I fact my MTD and normal SR5 might struggle to get any stage time for now.
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Re: Stingray 5 heavily modded by Matt at Bass People!

Post by Aussie Mark » 11 Sep 2011, 12:01

Pete, that looks great. Did you consider having it wired with an active/passive switch?

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Re: Stingray 5 heavily modded by Matt at Bass People!

Post by CrayZee_Bass » 11 Sep 2011, 12:38

Wow, looks good Pete!

Boy this ol SR5 has had more surgery than Pamela Anderson!

Be interesting to hear some clips of the Nordy P5.
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Post by Petebass » 11 Sep 2011, 12:51

CrayZee_Bass wrote: Boy this ol SR5 has had more surgery than Pamela Anderson!.
Indeed! This bass has a very long history. I'd write it all up but the post would now be over a page long :)

Mark an active passive switch wasn't really on my agenda before, but it may be down the track. Only problem is I dunno if there's any room in that already crowded cavity for anything else. I asked Matt at one point about the possibility of a push/pull knob for a series/parallel on the nordy to try for a jbass like tone. I later abandoned the idea but Matt did mention when I picked up the bass that it was just as well because he was pretty much out of room in there.

I'll stick with EQ adjustments for now and see how I go over time.
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Post by hairyampdroolin » 11 Sep 2011, 13:17

Marius?, not really It looks great.

Any reason why MM don't supply pups?
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Post by TheBottomLine » 11 Sep 2011, 13:22

:clap:
nice mod !
I love to hear this bass up close.
It should have loads of cut and rumble now.
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Post by Aussie Mark » 11 Sep 2011, 13:23

hairyampdroolin wrote:Any reason why MM don't supply pups?
They will sell you a pickup to replace a faulty one, but only on a swap basis. They don't sell parts (other than jack sockets, tuners etc) as a matter of policy - they sell great basses, but don't want to make it easy for people to put EBMM pickups or electronics in other basses.

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Re: Stingray 5 heavily modded by Matt at Bass People!

Post by hairyampdroolin » 11 Sep 2011, 13:27

Aussie Mark wrote:
hairyampdroolin wrote:Any reason why MM don't supply pups?
They will sell you a pickup to replace a faulty one, but only on a swap basis. They don't sell parts (other than jack sockets, tuners etc) as a matter of policy - they sell great basses, but don't want to make it easy for people to put EBMM pickups or electronics in other basses.
Thought as much, I wondered how they would do the replacement parts thing. Thanks
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Post by Petebass » 11 Sep 2011, 13:34

TheBottomLine wrote::It should have loads of cut and rumble now.
Which reminds me of something I forgot to mention.

Here's a basic diagram of the controls for this bass:-
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You'll notice the 3 way selector remains unchanged. It only affects the tone of the MM pickup as intended by MM.

To access the P pickup, there is now a blend knob. This mean that not only can I go for Pbass sound, or Stingray sound, but it's not necessarily one of the other. I can also use both pickups at once! That sound is just friggin INSANE. It's loud, it's angry, it rumbles like rolling thunder but slices like a machette. In fact it's so wild I'm a little bit scared to use it in my cover band.
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Re: Stingray 5 heavily modded by Matt at Bass People!

Post by NotTheFish » 11 Sep 2011, 14:13

Nice mod Pete.. I guess the P bass PUP isn't going to be 100% authentic sounding due to its positioning ? It looks a bit closer to the neck than a normal P would be. You have created a monster !!!

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Post by TheBottomLine » 11 Sep 2011, 14:47

Petebass wrote:
TheBottomLine wrote::It should have loads of cut and rumble now.
Which reminds me of something I forgot to mention.

Here's a basic diagram of the controls for this bass:-
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You'll notice the 3 way selector remains unchanged. It only affects the tone of the MM pickup as intended by MM.

To access the P pickup, there is now a blend knob. This mean that not only can I go for Pbass sound, or Stingray sound, but it's not necessarily one of the other. I can also use both pickups at once! That sound is just friggin INSANE. It's loud, it's angry, it rumbles like rolling thunder but slices like a machette. In fact it's so wild I'm a little bit scared to use it in my cover band.
When I said hear it up close , I should have added feel from a distance !
too much bottom end is never enough.
The Cover band should be very afraid
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Post by jamiesdad » 11 Sep 2011, 15:16

looks awesome pete ... great work by matt as always
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Re: Stingray 5 heavily modded by Matt at Bass People!

Post by Classic5 » 11 Sep 2011, 16:42

EDIT - See below
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Post by Classic5 » 11 Sep 2011, 16:42

Great mod to which a lot of throught has obviously gone into :thumbup:

Pete, I remember reading a while back now that you preferred Stingrays with ceramic pickups rather than alnico. Can you remind me, in what year did ceramic pickups take over from the older ones?

Also, what's the ballpark price for a mod like this? I'm thinking of doing the same thing to one of my Jazz basses....Jimmy Earl style - as in this photo:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:JIMMY_EARL.jpg

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Re: Stingray 5 heavily modded by Matt at Bass People!

Post by Curto » 11 Sep 2011, 16:58

Another great bit of modding! Well done! Certainly looks like a very versatile bass.
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